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Promoting, advancing and defending Intelligent Design via data, logic and Intelligent Reasoning and exposing the alleged theory of evolution as the nonsense it is. I also educate evotards about ID and the alleged theory of evolution one tard at a time and sometimes in groups

Friday, July 06, 2012

What is an "experiment"?

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experiment:

1.
a test, trial, or tentative procedure; an act or operation for the purpose of discovering something unknown or of testing a principle, supposition, etc.: a chemical experiment; a teaching experiment; an experiment in living.

2.
the conducting of such operations; experimentation: a product that is the result of long experiment.

3.
Obsolete . experience.

verb (used without object)
4.
to try or test, especially in order to discover or prove something: to experiment with a new procedure.


Yes, you can have an experiment without a hypothesis nor a goal, other than to find out what happens when you do something. Ever try something new? You are experimenting.

You do not need a lab, a white lab coat, a hypothesis nor a goal beyond wanting to discover what happens when I do this.

108 Comments:

  • At 2:30 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    FAIL.

    from the definition you give:

    " the purpose of discovering something unknown or of testing a principle"

    HYPOTHOSIS!

    and I'll repeat (and give you the benefit that it didn't get through the first time)

    What do you think the difference between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?

    If you don't think there is any difference, you can say that too.

    Crossposting at AtBC.

     
  • At 2:37 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Ever try something new? You are experimenting."

    To test the hypothesis of if you like it / want it. DUH!

     
  • At 4:15 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    To test the hypothesis of if you like it / want it.

    LoL! That is not a hypothesis, dumbass.

     
  • At 4:16 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    the purpose of discovering something unknown or of testing a principle"

    Richie:
    HYPOTHOSIS!

    That isn't a hypothesis, either, dumbass.

    And AGAIN, experiments are events and events can be phenomena, moron.

     
  • At 4:21 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    an act or operation for the purpose of discovering something unknown

    No hypothesis required, but then again Richie reTARDo doesn't know what a hypothesis is.

     
  • At 4:23 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    hy·poth·e·sis (h-pth-ss) KEY

    NOUN:
    pl. hy·poth·e·ses (-sz) KEY

    A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.

    Something taken to be true for the purpose of argument or investigation; an assumption.

    The antecedent of a conditional statement.


    Don't need any of that to perform an experiment.

     
  • At 4:26 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    But anyway Richie, you stupid faggot, your tard is out of the bag for trying to get me to describe something that in your little bitty pointed head doesn't exist.

    Not only that it doesn't have anything to do with anything I have said about GAs. You are a sad dishonest tard.

    cross-posted to various threads Richie is polluting...

     
  • At 5:14 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    I'm loving your epic fail Joe.

    Again (third time):

    "What do you think the difference between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?

    If you don't think there is any difference, you can say that too."

    Until you answer, we can safely write you off as a scientific know-nothing, caught out of his depth bluffing.

     
  • At 5:16 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    So it appears that the way it works is some experiment is conducted/ some event occurs and observations are made.

    From those observations we form hypotheses and then those are tested further to see how they stand up.

    So we can and do conduct experiments without first having a hypothesis.

     
  • At 5:19 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    I'm loving your epic fail Joe.

    Again (FOURTH time):

    "What do you think the DIFFERNCE between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?" (CAPS to help slow learners)

    If you don't think there is any difference, you can say that too."

    Until you answer, we can safely write you off as a scientific know-nothing, caught out of his depth bluffing.

     
  • At 5:21 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    The epic failure is all yours. It has been obvious for many years that you are ignorant of science.

    What do you think the difference between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?

    There doesn't have to be any difference, Richie. Given your penchent for misdefining words an experiment is an event is a phenomena.

    Do YOU understand that, Richie? Given your ability to redefine and misunderstand definitions I am sure you could make it appear that there isn't any difference bewteen them or there is vast differences between them.

    As I said you cowardly faggot- Make your case and stop playing faggot stroker games.

    Your first attempt has been exposed and this attempt isn't going any better for you.

     
  • At 5:22 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    http://chemistry.about.com/od/introductiontochemistry/a/What-Is-An-Experiment.htm

    "What Is an Experiment? - The Short Answer
    In its simplest form, an experiment is simply the test of a hypothesis. "

    and it goes on to include "Natural experiments" in this.

    ALL LAUGH AT JOEFAIL.

     
  • At 5:23 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "an experiment is an event is a phenomena."

    You believe this?

     
  • At 5:23 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie-

    Lost count of how many times-

    MAKE YOUR CASE AND STOP BEING SUCH A DISHONEST FAGGOT. THE WAY YOU REDEFINE AND MISUNDERSTAND DEFINITIONS AN EXPERIMENT, EVENT AND PHENOMENA CAN BE EITHER THE SAME OR DIFFERENT. THAT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE AN UNEDUCATED DISHONEST FUCK.

     
  • At 5:24 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    from the same link above:

    "Examples of Things That Are Not Experiments
    •Making a model volcano.


    •Making a poster.


    •Trying something, just to see what happens. On the other hand, making observations or trying something, after making a prediction about what you expect will happen, is a type of experiment."


    Don't cry, Joe.

     
  • At 5:25 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    ALL CAPS METLDOWN FROM FATTY LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

    Now dry your tears. Again:

    "an experiment is an event is a phenomena."

    You believe this?

     
  • At 5:26 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    What Is an Experiment? - The Short Answer
    In its simplest form, an experiment is simply the test of a hypothesis.


    Yes Richie and YOU are in the simplest form. Obviously a hypothesis is NOT required for an experiment to take place. You can conduct an experiment so that you make observations so that you can form hypotheses.

    As I said you are ignorant.

     
  • At 5:28 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    e·vent (-vnt)
    n.
    1.
    a. Something that takes place; an occurrence.
    b. A significant occurrence or happening. See Synonyms at occurrence.
    c. A social gathering or activity.
    2. The final result; the outcome.
    3. Sports A contest or an item in a sports program.
    4. Physics A phenomenon or occurrence located at a single point in space-time, regarded as the fundamental observational entity in relativity theory.


    Yup an experiment is an event

     
  • At 5:29 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    phe·nom·e·non (f-nm-nn, -nn)
    n. pl. phe·nom·e·na (-n)
    1. An occurrence, circumstance, or fact that is perceptible by the senses.
    2. pl. phe·nom·e·nons
    a. An unusual, significant, or unaccountable fact or occurrence; a marvel.
    b. A remarkable or outstanding person; a paragon. See Synonyms at wonder.
    3. Philosophy In the philosophy of Kant, an object as it is perceived by the senses, as opposed to a noumenon.
    4. Physics An observable event.

     
  • At 5:30 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    JoeTARD:

    "You do not need a lab, a white lab coat, a hypothesis nor a goal beyond wanting to discover what happens when I do this."


    *Actual scientist*

    "Examples of Things That Are Not Experiments:

    ...

    •Trying something, just to see what happens. On the other hand, making observations or trying something, after making a prediction about what you expect will happen, is a type of experiment. "

    Joe 100% wrong. In other news, dog bites man.

     
  • At 5:31 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    I get it- you are ignorant of science and believe ignorant websites.

    Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment. It fits the definition. Dumbass

     
  • At 5:32 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    So an experiment is something that takes place, ie an event and it is also an occurrence, circumstance, or fact that is perceptible by the senses, ie a phenomemon.

     
  • At 5:33 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Sorry Joe, try reading what was written. I didn't ask for definitions.

    Again (FIFTH time):

    "What do you think the DIFFERNCE between an experiment an event and a phenomena are?" (CAPS to help slow learners)

    You replied:
    "an experiment is an event is a phenomena."

    You believe this?

     
  • At 5:34 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Sorry Joe, try reading what was written. I didn't ask for definitions.

    You stupid fuck- definitions are the way to tell the differences between words.

    And your link is not the say-all authority you fucking moron

     
  • At 5:36 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "an experiment is an event is a phenomenon."

    Richie:
    You believe this?

    According to their respective definitions it is true. There isn't anything to believe.

     
  • At 5:36 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    I'll help you some more as your meltdown is making you slower than usual(!)

    Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?

     
  • At 5:39 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Make you faggot point. Or just admit that you are too much of a coward to do so.

    I have things to do...

     
  • At 5:40 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "And your link is not the say-all authority you fucking moron"

    No obviously its you, the Parking Lot dwelling YEC Muslim tick and watermelon watching GA expert war hero! Given your credability, it MUST be you!

     
  • At 5:41 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Oh don't run off Joe. Be brave, like in the parking lot!

    Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?

     
  • At 5:48 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    I see you didn't post the definition for experiment. Let me help you:

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/experiment

    "1.
    a. A test under controlled conditions that is made to demonstrate a known truth, examine the validity of a hypothesis, or determine the efficacy of something previously untried.
    b. The process of conducting such a test; experimentation.
    2. An innovative act or procedure: "Democracy is only an experiment in government" (William Ralph Inge).
    3. The result of experimentation: "We are not [nature's] only experiment" (R. Buckminster Fuller)."

     
  • At 6:04 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    I see you didn't post the definition for experiment.

    It's in the OP you fucking clueless freak.

    But anyway I know I can find scientists who agree with me, Richie- that doing something just to see what happens is an experiment.

    And if you are too much of a dishonest coward to actually make a point/ case, then go back to the swamp and stroke your butties

     
  • At 6:09 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Oh don't run off Joe. Be brave, like in the parking lot!

    Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?

     
  • At 6:12 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I'll meet you in the parking lot Richie- however it is obvious that you are a coward.

    BTW ole ignorant one, exploratory experiments are experiemnts in which scientists put things together to see what happens.

    You don't even know the basics, you fuck.

     
  • At 6:14 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?

    Do you? Where do you stand on that matter? Please do tell.

    That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand.

     
  • At 6:18 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Oh don't run off Joe. Be brave, like in the parking lot!

    Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?

    Oh and Joe - I'll post my GA work after you post yours :-)

     
  • At 6:19 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand."

    How old did you say the world and the universe were again, Joe?

    ;-)

     
  • At 6:32 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    I was there, no evoTARD showed up. IOW YOU ran away, Richie, cupcake or were just too afraid to show.

    Oh and Joe - I'll post my GA work after you post yours

    That is what faggot cowards always say. However your GA work is irrelevant as you have already proven that everything you know about them came from reading wikipedia.

     
  • At 6:34 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand."

    Richie:
    How old did you say the world and the universe were again, Joe?

    No one knows, least of all you. You just go with whatever your butties say because you are too much of a coward to actually say something own your own.

     
  • At 6:35 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?


    Do you? Where do you stand on that matter? Please do tell.

    That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand.


    Another prediction fulfilled...

     
  • At 6:35 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Oh - got nothing to post, Joe? Thought not, bluffer. The only way you'd meet up with me is if you thought I was giving out donuts. This blog is full of your cowardice, have a read!

    But still:

    Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?

     
  • At 6:35 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    BTW Richie, your cowering behind your ignorant butties is not making a stand.

     
  • At 6:37 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Oh - got nothing to post, Joe?

    I am posting plenty and exposing your ignorance at the same time. You are just too ignorant to notice.

    Richie:
    only way you'd meet up with me is if you thought I was giving out donuts.

    Any time Richie. I will be there just say when.

     
  • At 6:38 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?


    Do you? Where do you stand on that matter? Please do tell.

    That's right Richie knows better than to actually make a stand.

    Another prediction fulfilled...

     
  • At 6:52 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Joe:

    Do you? Where do you stand on that matter? Please do tell.

    Okay:

    I do not believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times. That would be moronic.

    Joe:

    "
    Any time Richie. I will be there just say when."

    Like the time you gave out a fake address of shat your pants when you thought I was in town? LOL.

     
  • At 8:16 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    I do not believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times.

    Yet you can't say why. Strange.

    Any time Richie. I will be there just say when."

    Like the time you gave out a fake address

    How can it be fake if I said i will meet you there, dumbass?

    shat your pants when you thought I was in town

    You are delusional as I never thought you were in town. It would make my day if you were, though.

     
  • At 8:18 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Hey Richie, if not by definition, how do you tell the difference between words? Do you use a dipstick?

     
  • At 8:26 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Experiments examine hypotheses, Joe. That's the difference you're too stupid to get.

    In your world, is *everything* an experiment?

    Yes, I recall being told to ask for you at an empty parking lot.

    Bwakakakakakaka

     
  • At 8:30 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Experiments examine hypotheses,

    Yes they can but they do not have to. That is the difference you are too stupid to understand, moron.

    Yes, I recall being told to ask for you at an empty parking lot.


    Strange, I wasn't even responding to you- dumbass coward. Not only that that isn't what I said. But then again you rely on old maps and have never actually been to the place...

     
  • At 8:32 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    again:

    In your world, is *everything* an experiment?

     
  • At 8:32 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    In your world, is *everything* an experiment?

    No.

     
  • At 8:33 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    You are ignorant in all worlds...

     
  • At 8:35 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    what types of things aren't experiments? why aren't they?

     
  • At 8:37 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiment

    "An experiment is a methodical trial and error procedure carried out with the goal of verifying, falsifying, or establishing the validity of a hypothesis."

    Utter fucking fail, Joe. :-D

     
  • At 8:40 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    wikipedia is not a say-all authority you fucking moron. I have provided definitions that say you don't need a hypothesis. Obvioulsy exploratory experiments do not require a hypothesis you fucking dumbass loser ignorant dick licker.

     
  • At 8:41 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    I do not believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times.

    Yet you can't say why. Strange.

    Still waiting Richie- your turn

     
  • At 8:42 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "I have provided definitions that say you don't need a hypothesis"

    No they don't.

    Again - what sort of things aren't experiments (per your own special and unique definition) and why?

     
  • At 8:44 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I have provided definitions that say you don't need a hypothesis.

    Richie:
    No they don't.

    Yes they do. Obvioulsy exploratory experiments do not require a hypothesis you fucking dumbass loser ignorant dick licker.

     
  • At 8:45 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Joe:

    "Yet you can't say why. Strange."


    Me, before:

    "Experiments examine hypotheses, Joe. That's the difference you're too stupid to get."

    (supported by wikipedia and scientists, not disconfirmed by any of JoeTards sources).

     
  • At 8:45 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    (per your own special and unique definition)

    Faggot coward- I have provided standard and accepted definitions. OTOH you measure the difference between words with a dipstick, moron

     
  • At 8:46 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    what do you think these 'exploratory experiments" are exploring, Dinglebrain?

     
  • At 8:47 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Exploratory experiments do not require a hypothesis- that is supported by science and scientists.

    Only scientifically illiterate faggots can't grasp the concept. and here is Richie.

     
  • At 8:49 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    what do you think these 'exploratory experiments" are exploring, Dinglebrain?

    No one cares about your dinglebrain- it can't explored anyway.

    Anyway exploratory experiments are used to make observations and then form hypotheses- as I said before you ignorant troll fucker.

     
  • At 8:51 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Why do people elect to do these "exploratory experiments", Joe?

     
  • At 8:53 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    To see what happens- what the fuck is wrong with you?

    But anyway- ignorant coward:

    why do experiments?

    As a complement to the previous post on “why do mathematical modeling”, I thought it would be fun to compile a list of all the reasons why one might conduct an experiment. But I am lazy* (though not as lazy as this man), and so rather than compiling my own list I’ll share the list from Wootton and Pfister 1998 (in Resetarits and Bernardo’s nice Experimental Ecology book).

    To see what happens. At it’s simplest, an experiment is a way of answering questions of the form “What would happen if…?” Such experiments often are conducted simply out of curiosity. This sort of experiment teaches you something about how the system works that you couldn’t have learned through observation, it gives you a starting point for further investigation (e.g., you can develop a model and/or do follow-up experiments to explain what happened), and it can be of direct applied relevance (e.g., if you want to know what effect trampling has on a grassland you’re trying to conserve, go out and trample on randomly-selected bits of it).

    There are limitations to such experiments, of course. Because they’re conducted without any hypothesis in mind, they’re typically difficult or impossible to interpret in light of existing hypotheses. And on their own, they don’t provide a good foundation for generalization (e.g., would the experiment come out the same way if you repeated it under different conditions, or in a different system?)

     
  • At 8:53 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Again - what sort of things aren't experiments (per your own special and unique definition) and why?

     
  • At 8:54 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    I don't have (per your own special and unique definition) so go back to fucking your dog...

     
  • At 8:59 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Oh dear.

    "“What would happen if…?”

    Is actually testing hypothesis, specifically the null hypothesis regarding the relationship between phenomena. I know you had to go digging hard for that one, so sad, too bad.

     
  • At 9:00 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Again - what sort of things aren't experiments (per your own special and unique definition) and why?


    You think that experiment = phenomina = event, so this is going to be fun.

     
  • At 9:03 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experiment

    "An experiment is a methodical trial and error procedure carried out with the goal of verifying, falsifying, or establishing the validity of a hypothesis."

    Utter fucking fail, Joe. :-D

    http://chemistry.about.com/od/introductiontochemistry/a/What-Is-An-Experiment.htm

    "What Is an Experiment? - The Short Answer
    In its simplest form, an experiment is simply the test of a hypothesis. "

    from the same link above:

    "Examples of Things That Are Not Experiments
    •Making a model volcano.


    •Making a poster.


    •Trying something, just to see what happens. On the other hand, making observations or trying something, after making a prediction about what you expect will happen, is a type of experiment."


    Don't cry, Joe.

     
  • At 9:08 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    wikipedia is not an authority richie- it isn't even an academically credible source you stuoid fuck. Your website isn't the say-all authority either Richie.

    "“What would happen if…?”

    Is actually testing hypothesis


    No, it isn't you lying freak. I challenge you to post a definition of "hypothesis" that supports your tripe.

    I posted one that supports me.

     
  • At 9:10 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Again - what sort of things aren't experiments (per your own special and unique definition) and why?

    I don't have a special and unique definition of experiment. Obviously you are a deluded shit muncher.


    You think that experiment = phenomina = event, so this is going to be fun.

    By DEFINITION an experiment is an event and also a phenomenon.

    Again it isn't my fault that you have problems with the language.

     
  • At 9:11 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Then there are experiments conducted just to measure something- no hypothesis required.

    Then again Richie doesn't know what a hypothesis is...

     
  • At 9:11 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_hypothesis

    "..For example, the null hypothesis might be that there is no relationship between two measured phenomena"

    Whoopsy!

    what was your definition, again?

     
  • At 9:13 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    How does that support anything you have said?

    You do have to actually make a case as opposed to just posting a quote-mine from a source that has no credibility.

     
  • At 9:14 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    And nothing that sez "what would happen if" is a hypothesis

     
  • At 9:14 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    By definition all cats are animals but not all animals are cats, dipshit. Hence:

    "Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?"

    You believe this. So I'm asking (for the umpteenth time) for something that *isn't* an experiment, per your 'understanding'

     
  • At 9:14 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    NOUN:
    pl. hy·poth·e·ses (-sz) KEY

    A tentative explanation for an observation, phenomenon, or scientific problem that can be tested by further investigation.

    Something taken to be true for the purpose of argument or investigation; an assumption.

    The antecedent of a conditional statement.

    Don't need any of that to perform an experiment.

     
  • At 9:16 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    "Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?"

    You believe this.


    Good luck providing any evidence to support that.

     
  • At 9:19 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    All events and phenomena can be experiments but hey once all possible experiments have been conducted for any given event the rest would be pure observation.

    And not that Richie will grasp this- most intelligent people want to figure stuff out so when they make observations they conduct experiments, even if only in their heads.

     
  • At 9:23 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Still wiggling, Joe?

    PATHETIC.

    Well try again:

    "Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?"

    Could you answer this please? If they're the same, what makes experiments unique from non experiments?

     
  • At 9:30 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie- coward- you have refused to answer MANY of my questions- just simply ignored them and prattled on as if your wilfull ignorance meant something.

    "Do you believe that experiments, events and phenomena are all the same concept, and can be used interchangeably at all times?"


    No- I have already said that you fuck breath.

    Experiments require observers- intelligent, articulate observers. Without that you can't have an experiment. Then an event is not an experiment.

    Again you won't get it and you sure as well will never make your point.

     
  • At 9:31 PM, Blogger Joe G said…

    To recap-

    Richie learned about GAs from reading wikipedia

    Richie learned about experiments from reading wikipedia

    That is why Richie is a clueless loser.

     
  • At 9:34 PM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Experiments require observers- intelligent, articulate observers"

    Really? But you've just told me that doing something to see what happens is an experiment. My cat does that.

    BWAHAHAHAH.

     
  • At 12:25 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    "Experiments require observers- intelligent, articulate observers"

    Richie:
    Really?

    Really, and that leaves you out. A world full of people like you and there wouldn't be any experiments.

    But you've just told me that doing something to see what happens is an experiment.

    Yes. Doing something to see what happens requires articulate observers.

    My cat does that.

    Obviously your cat is much more intelligent than you are, cupcake.

     
  • At 12:26 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Ya see Richie, discoveries require discoverers.

     
  • At 1:55 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Fantastic. Joe Goes full 'tard.

    Cats, are doing science, performing experiments. When Joe watches TV, he's performning an experiment. When he eats breakfast (and boy does he), he's performing experiments.

    GREAT WORK THERE SCIENTIST JOE I'M SURE YOUR UNIQUE SCIENCE AND EXPERIMENTS WILL CATCH ON ONE DAY. :-)

     
  • At 9:49 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    I never said cats are doing science. I said your cat is much more intelligent than you are. Your retardedness took that to mean cats are doing science.

    Ya see Richie, you are a deluded moron.

    And Richie, iot is obvious that you are totally ignorant of science- you learned science from reading wikipedia- just as a moron would.

     
  • At 9:57 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Look at your 'definition', Joe. Cats can do it, kids watching TV can do it.

    You assert both:

    "
    Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment" (despite scientists clearly listing "
    •Trying something, just to see what happens" as NOT an experiment)

    and

    "Experiments require observers- intelligent, articulate observers" (made up joeguff).

    Cats do the top one, which is an experiment in (c)JoeLanguage.

    There is almost no human activity that doesn't fullfill the second one. No doubt you are currently doing the experiment 'internet' after having done the experiment 'breakfast'.

    Fucking idiot.

     
  • At 10:00 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    No Richie, cats are not articulate observers, dumbass.

    There is almost no human activity that doesn't fullfill the second one.

    Any activity with just people like you as you are a moron and not an articulate observer.

    But anyway according to Kevin R McCarthy, aka Ogre MKV, jujst about evrything we do is science, which is an experiment.

     
  • At 10:02 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    Just admit that you are totally ignorant of science.

     
  • At 10:03 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    No Richie, cats are not articulate observers, dumbass.

    But they "
    Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment" which you've defined as an experiment, dumbass.

    "But anyway according to Kevin R McCarthy, aka Ogre MKV, jujst about evrything we do is science, which is an experiment."

    So Kevin is the de facto arbiter of science for you now? I hope you're prepared to be consistent with that. Perhaps you should be nicer to him, dipshit.

     
  • At 10:05 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Just admit that you are totally ignorant of science.

    I'm having to learn (c)Joescience, which is done by cats and kids watching cartoons. No wonder you pretend to be a scientist - who isn't in your backwards world?

     
  • At 10:09 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    No Richie, cats are not articulate observers, dumbass.

    But they "
    Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"


    Prove it. Good luck with that.

    I say cats just do things and stuff happens, meaning they don't do it to see what happens.

    Only a moron would think cats actually say to themselves "I'm going to do this to see what happens"

    "But anyway according to Kevin R McCarthy, aka Ogre MKV, jujst about evrything we do is science, which is an experiment."

    So Kevin is the de facto arbiter of science for you now?

    Nope I am just pointing out that you evoTARDS can't keep your stories straight and unlike you Kevvy has science training.

     
  • At 10:09 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Just admit that you are totally ignorant of science.

    Compared to you I am an expert in science and I have proven that every day.

     
  • At 10:14 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Prove it. Good luck with that."

    http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/rev/77/5/406/

    Keep painting into that corner, ficktard!

    "
    Only a moron would think cats actually say to themselves "I'm going to do this to see what happens"

    Oh try and push those goalposts, little scared animal!

    the claim was (your claim) "Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment" Same old dishonest Joe, eh?

    Expert in nothing about from making a fool of himself.

    Joescience, with Joenetic algorithms (which are part of the virtual organism, not vice versa). You're a Tard's Tard, that's for sure.

    And me typing right now - THIS IS JOESCIENCE OMG!!!!!!111111one.

     
  • At 10:16 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "Compared to you I am an expert in science and I have proven that every day"

    LOL! yes, in JOESCIENCE you are, which is a completely different definition than REALSCIENCE and is done by all people at all times and also by cats.

    Magic stuff Joe, the old rule of just left you go and see how stupid you can make yourself looks pays dividends. No wonder you hate giving specifics, they always bite you!

     
  • At 10:34 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Prove it. Good luck with that.

    I say cats just do things and stuff happens, meaning they don't do it to see what happens.

    Only a moron would think cats actually say to themselves "I'm going to do this to see what happens"


    http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/rev/77/5/406/


    How does a bald link refute what I said?

    "Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"

    Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"- you are one fucking stupid faggot, Richie.

     
  • At 10:37 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie the lying faggot:
    yes, in JOESCIENCE you are, which is a completely different definition than REALSCIENCE

    Nice lying tardgasm- I have used nothing but standard and accepted definitions. OTOH Richie just relies on wikipedia and one other resource.

    I rely on science and scientists and papers like the following:

    Exploratory Experiments

    And Richie obviously you have an issue with what Kevin said but somehow I know that you are too much of a coward to say anything to him.

     
  • At 10:40 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Read the article, be less of an idiot, Joe. Ironic moaning from the idiot who throws out 'let me google that for you' links as evidence. You sad tard hypocrite.

    Then we learn something about Joe:

    Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"

    Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"

    Actually Joe, the vast majority of humanity don't think those words prior to taking an action. Cognition doesn't work like that. If you have a running monologue in your head, you should get professional help. Actually, you should get professional help even if you don't.

    In JOESCIENCE, language is impossible,because babies would first have to think "I'm going to repeat these sounds" to learn to speak, and everyone knows babies can't speak, so that would be impossible.

    FUCKING DULLARD.

     
  • At 10:46 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Read the article, be less of an idiot, Joe.

    make your case and be less of a fucking coward, Richie.

    who throws out 'let me google that for you' links as evidence

    I did that for a REFERENCE only to support my claim that evidence exists.

    Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"

    Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"


    Actually Joe, the vast majority of humanity don't think those words prior to taking an action.

    How is that even relevant? As I said those morons, like you, cannot conduct experiments. It is only the people who say "I am going to do this to see what happens" who are conducting experiemnts- dumbass.

    But anyway I see you can run your mouth but unfortunately all that comes out is ignorance and lies.

     
  • At 10:51 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "I did that for a REFERENCE only to support my claim that evidence exists."

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Its on the internet = evidence.

    How is that even relevant?

    Beacuse it shows what a fucktard you are for saying:

    "Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"

    Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"

    Which is clearly utterly wrong and anyone with any experience with actual thought knows that's not how is works.

    Tell us more JOESCIENCE!!!1111

    How do we know if something is true?

    Can we measure CSI

    Who loves Jesus more, you or Gordon Mullings?

     
  • At 10:53 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    Its on the internet = evidence.


    That is what YOU do, Richie, faggot. Just look at this thread.

    "Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"

    Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"


    Which is clearly utterly wrong and anyone with any experience with actual thought knows that's not how is works.

    Umm just your say-so is meaningless, asshole. make your case, if you can.

    Or just admit that you are a lying loser.

     
  • At 10:56 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    "make your case, if you can"

    Sure have it again:

    Because it shows what a fucktard you are for saying:

    "Trying something, just to see what happens is an experiment"

    Which means one has to say "I'm going to do this to see what happens"


    Actually Joe, the vast majority of humanity don't think those words prior to taking an action. Cognition doesn't work like that. If you have a running monologue in your head, you should get professional help. Actually, you should get professional help even if you don't.

    In JOESCIENCE, language is impossible,because babies would first have to think "I'm going to repeat these sounds" to learn to speak, and everyone knows babies can't speak, so that would be impossible.

    FUCKING DULLARD.

     
  • At 10:57 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Again Richie proves that he is nothing but an ignorant faggot.

    That is not making a case Richie. That is just you spewing nonsense, dumbass.

    Nice of you to ignore my responses to your nonsense...

     
  • At 10:59 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie:
    In JOESCIENCE, language is impossible,because babies would first have to think "I'm going to repeat these sounds" to learn to speak,

    Nope. That is just you spewing lying bullshit.

    IOW Richie just because you can spew lying nonsense does not means it's true.

     
  • At 11:01 AM, Blogger Rich Hughes said…

    Oh, I'm sorry if its too difficult to understand, Joe.

    I tried to make it REALLY simple so you could get it, using a Reductio ad absurdum (babies learning speech) to help you understand what a fucktard notion you'd some up with, but apparently even that was beyond you. I declare you too stupid to learn, Joe.

    GOOD LUCK WITH JOESCIENCE, JOENETIC AL GOR'S RHYTHM EXPERT.

     
  • At 11:11 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    Richie,

    Just because your having sex with your mother and other types of animals gets you points with evoTARDS, those points don't carry any weight around here.

    Just to be clear Richie- you are a sick fuck liar and a coward.

     
  • At 11:13 AM, Blogger Joe G said…

    So Richie spews lies and bullshit, has them exposed and sez I am too stupid to learn.

    Learn what, Richie? Learn how to be a faggot liar and coward like you?

    Richie, YOU can't teach anyone anything about science, nor GAs. YOU are an ignorant fuck- deal with it.

     

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